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UltraEdit and UEStudio 2024.1 no longer supported on Windows 7 and Windows 8

UltraEdit and UEStudio 2024.1 no longer supported on Windows 7 and Windows 8

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    15:56 - Aug 28#1

    The version 2024.1.0.32 (31.1.0.32) requires api-ms-win-shcore-scaling-l1-1-1.dll, which does not come with Windows 7.

    I will email support and ask if 2024.1 (31.1) is no longer supported on Win7, or if the file was simply missing, and if missing, where would that file go once I fetch it.
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      16:49 - Aug 28#2

      Here is what I reported by email to UltraEdit support during beta testing regarding to compatibility with Windows 7/8.
      Subject: No compatibility anymore with Windows 7 because of GetScaleFactorForMonitor in SHCore.dll

      I wanted to test 64-bit UE/UES 2024.1.0.16 also on 64-bit Windows 7. The installation was successful on the Windows 7 PC for both applications.

      But on start is just shown a message box with executable file name and - System Error in the title and the text:

      The program can't start because
      api-ms-win-shcore-scaling-l1-1-1.dll is missing from your
      computer. Try reinstalling the program to fix the problem.

      See attached Windows7_SystemError_UE.webp and Windows7_SystemError_UES.webp.

      This DLL is not available for Windows 7.

      I viewed uedit64b.exe with the Total Command plugin FileInfo on Windows 11 which can display a DLL dependency tree. The DLL is missing also on my Windows 11 23H2 PC, see attached image Windows11_MissingDLL.webp. I could not believe it and searched on all local drives of Windows 11 for that DLL with including hidden files and folders. The DLL file does definitely not exist on my Windows 11 PC.

      The Total Commander FileInfo plugin displays on tab "Image File Header" which functions are used from which libraries which shows for this DLL:

      Code: Select all

      IMPORTS TABLE:
   api-ms-win-shcore-scaling-l1-1-1.dll
    Import Lookup Table RVA:      026BAEE0h     (Unbound IAT)
    TimeDateStamp:     00000000h
    ForwarderChain:     00000000h
    DLL Name RVA:     026BB6ACh
    Import Address Table RVA:     01D3A350h
    First thunk RVA:     01D3A350h
    Ordn      Name
    -----    -----
       4     GetScaleFactorForMonitor
      There is only used the function GetScaleFactorForMonitor which is used most likely just for the information 100% scaling (on my Windows 11 PC) in the body of a support request email created with the new command Start support request.

      Please remove that function and with it also the dependency on this DLL for getting UltraEdit and UEStudio again compatible with Windows 7/8.

      It would be also possible to load the library only on execution of the command Start support request with function LoadLibraryExW and if that fails assume 100% as scaling factor. I have seen in world wide web that some other applications use that also as workaround for compatibility with older versions of Windows like Windows 7 and Windows 8 which do not have the library file api-ms-win-shcore-scaling-l1-1-1.dll.

      Well, even my Windows 11 23H2 PC does not have it installed by default.

      The Microsoft documentation for the function GetScaleFactorForMonitor describes that Windows 8.1 is the minimum supported Windows client.

      The function is in %SystemRoot%\System32\SHCore.dll on Windows 11 which is the reason why starting UltraEdit 2024.1.0.16 works on Win 11 at all.

      I find Get actual monitor DPI scaling factor very interesting. A VBScript writer wanted to get the scale factor for the monitor whether DPI awareness is on or off and wanted to avoid the usage of GetScaleFactorForMonitor for compatibility with Windows 7/8 which definitely do not have SHCore.dll as I could verify with my PC with Windows 7. The solution required just a few lines of VBScript code which call Windows functions existing also in older Windows versions. The few lines can be easily written also in C++ in my opinion if you really need the DPI scaling factor in the support request email.
      I searched in the meantime  for SHCore.dll for Windows 7 and it looks like there can be downloaded this DLL for Windows 7. But I have not yet found a download location which I trust.

      I still hope that enough UE/UES users request a compatibility of UE/UES with Windows 7/8 by removing this function call just used on running the command Start support request for creation of an email to UltraEdit support with the scaling factor as information. It is a pity that the compatibility of UE/UES with Windows 7/8 is completely lost just because of that function call no UltraEdit user needs. I would understand a loss of compatibility with Windows 7/8 because of a fundamental change which is a big benefit for UE/UES users using Windows 10/11 like an integrated AI support, but I have a problem with a Windows 7/8 compatibility loss because of just that really not important function call not used by UE/UES at all when a user works with text and source code files.
      Best regards from an UC/UE/UES for Windows user from Austria
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        9:48 - Sep 05#3

        I have written a void api-ms-win-shcore-scaling-l1-1-1.dll, and it works well.
        Just unpack and place it into UltraEdit installation folder.
        api-ms-win-shcore-scaling-l1-1-1.7z (9.09 KiB)   0
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          16:00 - Sep 05#4

          All the ones I found (at sites like DLLHell, DLLs-R-Us, etc.) are 2.5 KB.

          Why is this one so large?

            1:55 - Oct 01#5

            The version 2024.1.0.36 (31.1.0.36) was released today.

            I can, of course, download and install it, to determine if the issue with (the missing file in Win7) api-ms-win-shcore-scaling-l1-1-1.dll has been resolved.

            But, I ask here if there is any additional "inside" info on this issue?

              2:02 - Oct 01#6

              The download "Thank you" page still downloads 31.1.0.32, even though the SHA256 hash shown is not that for 31.1.0.32.
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                5:49 - Oct 01#7

                I reported the issue with wrong file downloaded by the user by email already to UltraEdit support for version 31.1.0.32. I looked also for the cause of this issue. It is WordPress in combination with cookie handling as defined by the user and perhaps also the web browser used by the user. It looks like if the user accepts only strictly necessary cookies and has the downloads page already in its local browser cache, the page itself is updated but the special code appended by WordPress dynamically with script code to all the download urls is not updated. That results in downloading an old version of the installer executable instead of the installer executable for the version displayed on the page.

                One workaround solution for this wrong behavior of WordPress is clearing the browser cache before opening the downloads page which of course is perhaps not wanted by the user. Another workaround used by me is copying the download link, paste it into the address bar of the browser and remove everything after .exe. Then the installer executable is downloaded in the newest version.

                Please report this issue to support of UltraEdit by email. The more users report this download issue caused by a bug in WordPress the higher becomes the priority for UltraEdit, Inc. Well, UltraEdit support was shocked as I reported this download issue by email because they expected a download of always newest version and not an older version which WordPress cached itself. It looks like according to your report that this WordPress issue is still not solved for the downloads of the installer executables on the UltraEdit, Inc. downloads pages.

                BTW: The UltraEdit hotfix page has the information about the fixes in UltraEdit for Windows v2024.1.0.36.
                Best regards from an UC/UE/UES for Windows user from Austria
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                  7:10 - Oct 01#8

                  I did see the Hotfix page info for 31.1.0.36. However, I have come to be skeptical of the completeness of the list of changes admitted to. I conclude, with no evidence to support it, that many other minor and inconsequential issues not worth mentioning were resolved.
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                    23:04 - Oct 02#9

                    I no longer understand the UE versioning, at all.

                    I just want to be able to run UE on Win7. After updating through the UI, I get this error. Much of the above is non-nonsensical to me. The latest download installation (31.1.0.36) still gives me:
                    UE-Error.png (22.52KiB)
                    Shallies wrote: ↑
                    9:48 - Sep 05
                    I have written a void api-ms-win-shcore-scaling-l1-1-1.dll, and it works well.
                    Just unpack and place it into UltraEdit installation folder.
                    api-ms-win-shcore-scaling-l1-1-1.7z
                    This worked.

                    Copy the "api-ms-win-shcore-scaling-l1-1-1.dll" to the directory you installed UE into.
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                      20:37 - 5 days ago#10

                      In the post by Shallies above, where Mofi 'liked' it, and justhereforafix 'reacted' to it, and later PJP made a positive comment -- even though the link to the file shows (for me) '0' downloads -- can I be assured this file is valid?

                      It has been there since Sept, so may I conclude that because a moderator has not removed it, I am safe to use it?
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                        8:49 - 5 days ago#11

                        The attached archive file contains not only the dummy DLL file api-ms-win-shcore-scaling-l1-1-1.dll with the dummy function GetScaleFactorForMonitor always returning 100% but also the source code and the Visual Studio project to compile it. Yes, the DLL is valid. It does nothing. The fake DLL file is just for successfully starting UE/UES on Windows 7 on being stored in the program files directory of UE/UES and returning the value 100 on being indeed called by UltraEdit/UEStudio.

                        PS: Counting downloads does not work for unknown reasons.
                        Best regards from an UC/UE/UES for Windows user from Austria
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                          6:40 - 1 day ago#12

                          Thank you.

                          Currently running 2024.2.0.39 on Win7 Pro SP1, after having placed the DLL made available in the earlier post.

                          (Of course, it is guaranteed that eventually IDM Computer Solutions will release a version that won't run on Win7 no matter what. I will not go to W10/W11!)